Welcome to Vegan Information! Vegan, Dogs, Cats, Pets, Veganism, Nutrition, Food

"nutrients, not ingredients is what really matters" Dr Andrew Keith quote. For humans cats or dogs etc  Logical.

I went VEGAN fully AFTER my dogs did lol ! who am I ? a blogger lol...(Noelle M-T Obcarskas ordinary person blogger)  I quote people in the know, and give sources, and my own views, but LOADS of Supporting Expert links.

"Animal Flesh and Products are simply Processed Plants with Additives, so destructive, inefficient, unhealthy and  unnecessarily cruel to all animals, humans included, going Vegan makes perfect sense"...My Personal Quotation Noelle  Obcarskas !

PDF/Word files...June 2017...Vegan Pet Dogs and Cats   Animals Killed for Food USA   Rescue Dogs and Cats Issues   Petfood

and starting June 2017 a CAT and DOG NUTRIENTS details page...http://vegan-information.com/Dog_Cat_Nutrients_Needs_Details.html


Vegepets website links provided below ...Veterinary Qualified and Experienced Authors of website links provided. Dr Andrew Knight is not the only Vegan Vet out there I add !




 News about the Veterinary Pioneer who dared to promote VEGAN DOGS AND CATS ...Dr Andrew Knight...news today...worth Congratulating....so I share...Who has not benefited from his Veggiepets Website http://www.vegepets.info/index.html that I and others often quote ? Vanaja Panickar  another Vegan Vet just congratulated him today as I did...what a star.

we luv ja cos u love the animals ! such a star ! and to be recognised whilst ALIVE when a pioneer hey ! a rarity ! ! not easy hey out there promoting vegan dogs and cats as a vet ! on Bonfire Night in the UK celebrating not DEATH of anyone, not Fireworks...but ? a ROCKET up the proverbial of our modern so forgotten antiquated preconceptions about the meaning of the Hyppocratic Oath doctors since Hyppocrates take about the meaning of PRESERVATION of LIFE !

"Sunday, November 5, 2017 at 4:16am" November 5 Andrew Knight In October I flew to London to receive my RCVS Fellowship. The event was held in the Royal Institution - it was such a pleasure to be in such a beautiful and historic venue! pics: http://www.andrewsadventures.info/2017/RCVS-Fellowship-Day-October/ "

Now back to MOI ! AS ! MICH ! ME ! Я/мне(Ya)     MY (Noelle M-T Obcarskas ordinary person blogger) views of ? My views write up ! and my calculations on lives wasted if pets are fed other animals lives figures with sources those are based on provided ...

Love me...Back to Life...I cannot say to all the animals i and my dogs caused the unnecessary deaths of for years. As the Beatles sang...Love is all you need...but....but...we know that love is not all you need if we get it wrong do things out of love that harm our dogs like feed them RAW or BARF ! that kills and makes sick so many dogs due to all the poison in antibiotics hormones additives in cattle feed just to keep animals alive long enough before killed...eeek ? non merci ! Celine Dion Canadian French singer lovely song "Loved me Back to Life" came to mind often thinking of overdoing treats or feeding dogs just what they would kill themselves on like chocolate I add... I loved my bitch...back to life...when she had stomac ulcers caused by acidity reactions in her reaction to FLESH her breed sensitive stomac could not deal with...heading to her breed speciality of STOMAC CANCER medications were not curing...then...VEGAN DIET no more ulcers...loved back to LIFE ! I gave her more TIME to live...to love me...and me to love her.



Some Vegan Companion Animal Food (petfoods) Food Websites

Evolution Diet - http://www.petfoodshop.com
V-Dog - https://v-dog.com
Ami - http://www.amipetfood.com/en
Benevo - http://www.benevo.com
Veganpet - http://veganpet.com.au

Veganism is about respecting the life of all animals. Taking a life unnecessarily for food if avoidable is what vegans avoid, and since responsible for feeding  our pets it is logical to feed them vegan also.

I would hope that those promoting saving pets lives would encourage and lead by example of showing that no lives need be taken by us of animals for our pet dogs and cats. The Term Vegan Revolution means challenging prehistoric views and practices of the past. It means being open minded to change, evolution and just new ways of living and doing things. It is clear that the arguments made against humans being vegans can be the same towards our pets dogs and cats being vegans. One can believe the world is flat not round against evidence provided.

For me...the fact humans cats and dogs can and have lived full lifetimes healthily on vegan diets is enough for me. I do not therefore believe that when it is obvious this is possible that any other lives need be taken. A life of an animal is of equal value no matter what the species...is a principle of veganism...so if not necessary vegans choose not to take lives. I provide some collections of links on various sources of supporting information links. 

Taxonomy....additional clarification...is evolutionary classification. now....here i come ! dogs...are descendants of a cat like creature ! and we all descended from fish that landed then took to flight...birds being the highest latest form of evolution therefore logically. hardly good to mention "bird brained"... magpies are the only non mammal that can recognise its own self in a mirror. here  are common cat/dog ancestors of cats and dogs !

Mammalian carnivores can trace their lineage back to a creature in the early Eocene, 55 million years ago. Fossils that were discovered in Belgium have gotten researchers one step closer to finding the ancestor of these animals. The name, Dormaalocyon latouri, an homage to the Dormaal region where the fossil was located. The team was able to describe the animal based on over 250 teeth and bones located in the ankle. These newly discovered bones add to two teeth that were found previously. The results come from a research team led by Floréal Solé and were published in the Journal of Vertebrate Paleontology. https://www.livescience.com/42342-tiny-carnivore-ancestor-discovered.html 2014 Scientific Article on the Belgian Discovery. The carnivore ancestor Dormaalocyon latouri, roamed Europe 56 million years ago. Credit: Art by Charlène Letenneur (MNHN) and Pascale Golinvaux (RBINS) (picture of large Cat ancestor related. The smaller picture is another source of another common ancestor of cats and dogs) ">........................ Digestive systems varied over evolution for sure. Dogs digest certain nutrients such as starches better than Wolves ...due to centuries of living and eating off scraps from humans tables. Cats lost the ability to digest certain nutrients well. Taurine is one that is destroyed by cooking so today all standard manufactured CATFOOD whether vegan or not has SYNTHETIC taurine in it...proving it is "nutrients not ingredients" that matters for nutrition. Some species of animals have "fang"like teeth developed to tear things easier than other species that graze or eat off trees berries fruits, intestines of flesh eaters tend to be very short to allow fast passage of dangerous to health decaying flesh....

All animals however are able to DIGEST nutrients obviously. It really does not matter what historically different species ate...what is important is the NUTRIENTS in food.

All life on earth is inter related. We are living organisms. There is nothing conflictual even supporting of the accounts of Creation and Evolution. In the beginning...was the void. There were no sun and moon or stars or life on earth. Let there be light ! 

Life began in the Oceans, Water...Fish then Insects then Birds then Mammals including Humans. So long ago...but it is all FISHY WATERS ! We are all related. 

Life began in the Oceans, Water...Fish then Insects then Birds then Mammals including Humans. So long ago...but it is all FISHY WATERS ! We are all related. 



DOGS…are they Carnivores, Necrovores or Omnivores ?  

This is a question about the TAXONOMY CATEGORY of physiology and classification of living organisms not a definition of what they can eat to thrive on nutritionally. In reality…

Proven by thousands of real life cases of FELINES as well as CANINES all living full lives healthily on VEGAN diets…including a real life Lioness called Little Tyke and a Guinness Book of Records proven Vegan long lived dog called Bramble.

VEGAN dogs and cats are not a NEW phenomenon…farm dogs for decades even centuries were fed plant based foods as their staples diets by human owners and lived full lives and were even used as high energy hunting dogs.

Under the Taxonomy (classification of living organisms by physiological traits) o CARNIVORES there are also many differences regarding the degree of flesh in the diets of CARNIVORES ..which can include PLANTS…PLANTS come under the CARNIVORE taxonomy in fact not just mammals or fish etc.

A Carnivore eats warm flesh of immediately killed organism. A Necrovore (like vultures can be though there are also Vegan vultures) eat putrid decaying dead a long time before eating organisms. A Herbivore eats plant organisms. Carnivores often eat the dung of herbivores so are not really 100 percent flesh based diets additionally as nutrients in dung of herbivores have vegetable matter with nutrients needed even by carnivores often.

The genomic signature of dog domestication reveals adaptation to a starch-rich diet










against raw flesh feeding…







Farley Mowat, in his book “Never Cry Wolf,” described his experience observing wild wolves in the Alaskan tundra. He found, to his surprise, that wolves naturally ate large amounts of grasses, proving that their diet was by no means exclusively carnivorous. Apart from that, the reasons for feeding pet dogs a wholly vegan diet include: a correctly balanced vegan diet can provide all the nutrients available in meat; when properly prepared, dogs eat, digest and assimilate said diet easily; this helps to offset the huge negative environmental impact of raising animals for food. in 2002 the World Guiness Book of Records a British dog border collie called BRAMBLE was recorded then as the longest living dog. VEGAN fed. There are thousands of full life thriving vegan dogs and cats around.


Vegan Dog and Cat Books List.  As at Oct. 2017 on Amazon online  as at Oct. 2017. Some in Kindle version as well as hardback or paperback.

Famous Vegan Dog Bramble and Little Tyke Lioness.

Vegan Dog and Cat Food Recipy books.

Vegan Dog and Cat Herbal and Essential Oils remedies books.

Vegan Dog and Cat  Allergy Recipes books

Found on Amazon Oct 2017. Many in Kindle format not just hard or paperbacks.

En 2002, le Livre des Records Guiness (Guinness Book of World Records) avait désigné un chien collie le plus vieux au monde, de 27 ans. C'était un chien vegan..

Bramble; The dog who wanted to live forever. The Somerset notes.

by Anne Heritage (Author)

Welsh Collie Bramble lived to 25 years old and at the time of her death was the worlds oldest bitch. This book documents her care regime and vegan diet. It demonstrates how to circumvent the petfood industry which contributes to greenhouse gasses and Animal abuse via intensive farming. It is also the story of the humans who cared for Bramble , and a record of working class lives and struggles in Somerset from the 1950’s to the present day.

It encapsulates a philosophy on how to facilitate longevity in the animals that live with us, whilst bringing you snap shots of the lives of people like the authors soldier and trade unionist father, whose efforts on behalf of his colleagues enabled working class voices to be heard across the century.

It is a memoir of a bolshy welsh dog and the voices of Somerset folk. The ones you don’t usually hear.
The book has a non linear narrative so chapters can be read in any order.

Top customer reviews

5.0 out of 5 starsA Wonderful Story

ByTonya Gon July 17, 2015

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I truly enjoyed this book. The writer has a wonderful descriptive writing style where she vividly portrays the personalities of the dogs and sceneries of nature. I took this book with me this week on a 30 minute bus commute to work and found myself almost missing my stops a few times as well as wiping tears away over the death of Floyd. I learned a lot and have a tremendous amount of respect for them and the great love and care given to the dogs. This is one story I will always love to remember.

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5.0 out of 5 starsGreat book! Very informative and happy story of Brambles ...

ByS. obrienon February 19, 2016

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Great book! Very informative and happy story of Brambles life and her canine siblings. Definite must read! Especially if you're thinking about rescuing a dog or any animal. Thank you Anne Heritage :) Great tribute to Bramble <3 I think all who have read this book have a special place in our hearts for her <3

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5.0 out of 5 starsAn excellent well written memoir

ByM Cashon July 31, 2015

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This is a book about treating animals with the same respect that we would show human beings. I would recommend it for vegans and non-vegans alike. Non-vegans probably need this story of compassion and sacrifice more than those who are already on board with the philosophy. After reading it how could one not want to be more like Anne Heritage? Of course treating animals with respect is just the logical thing to do. To abuse and eat them doesn't make any sense, for our selfish needs, or to feed our animal companions. The vegan lifestyle works for dogs too, which is the most important message of this memoir.

The book is primarily about Heritage and her life in rural England. We mostly hear about her dogs when they are first adopted and when they die. This is a very depressing book and I would not recommend it for people who are overly sensitive. My girlfriend, for instance, couldn't take it because it made her think about our dogs dying. The book is well written and easy to read. The language is clean and simple with vibrant descriptions of life in the country.

I only disagreed with Heritage on one point and that is when she said that professionals who work 8 hours a day should not adopt dogs. I have heard this from people at dog shelters as well, which surprises me because being alone with other dogs for 8 hours, five days a week seems better to me than being put to death. I never understood that argument, especially because Heritage never had a career or a real job her entire life it seems and was forced to live in a van at one point. That's not an ideal life for a dog either. But that aside, her example is one to strive for.

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5.0 out of 5 starsA Glimpse Of True Compassion

Bymeredith shattuck-keckenon October 9, 2017

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I thoroughly enjoyed Bramble: The dog who wanted to live forever.... It shares a true vegan lifestyle. Anne Heritage respects her dogs, all creatures, her fellow humans, and our planet. Her vegan dog diet is nutritionally complete and yet simple enough for anyone to make. Anne's dogs received hours of daily exercise to keep them healthy. Her love and respect for her dogs is clear throughout the writing of Anne Heritage.
Not only does Anne, as a vegan, respect her dogs--she also respects other people and the world around her. Her tone is warm and sincere. I highly recommend this book!

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3.0 out of 5 starsA nice story about the owner's various dogs

ByMelinda C.on January 30, 2016

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I bought this book because I was very interested in feeding my dogs a vegan diet and thought it would be more about how to do that. It was a nice story of the author's dogs and I did read the whole book so it did catch my interest. The author did mention a couple of times what she cooked for her dogs. I was very glad to read that her dogs thrived for many years on their vegan diets.

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5.0 out of 5 starsIf you want your dog to live long, here's the answer:

ByHOANAon November 17, 2015

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Here's undeniable proof that, just as for people, dogs do live longer on a vegan diet. How? The diet of brown rice, textured soy protein, lentils and steamed veggies allowed Bramble, a border collie, to live to 25 years (175 years in human years)! Other dogs in Anne's care also lived extraordinarily long lives. What a lively and fascinating account. It's an easy read and hard to put down.

Little Tyke: The True Story of a Gentle Vegetarian Lioness (Quest Books) Paperback – January 1, 1986

by Georges H Westbeau (Author)

Little Tyke, the famous African lioness who made public appearances that thrilled many audiences, lived at Hidden Valley Ranch in the state of Washington. She loved to play with children; she never liked to be away from her master and mistress; and she was amazingly kind to all other animals. Here is a miracle of modern life, a classic story you will sincerely enjoy.


Considering the high level of..

1. Processed gmo cattle feed in flesh...

2. Antibiotics, hormones, pesticides in cattle and their feed also processed in flesh, hormones in secretions like milk of animals intended to grow huge size cows so too acidic causing cancers and osterperosis in humans/dogs/cats.

3. Additives to below human grade fit for purpose flesh based petfood...

4. Cancerous tumours diseased animals used in petfoods from the waste of unfit for humans victims...

5. Allergies to all that and even flesh itself ...

6. Allergies on the increase due to air pollution land pollution water pollution due mostly to animal agriculture products spread on the land that via excretions of farmed animals ends up in the water land and air to cause the allergies....

7. Cannibalism and the health effects of that likely as many rescue dogs cats greyhounds no longer used for racing ending up in petfoods.

There are plenty substantiated evidences of all the points listed above. Plenty. Pets at vets with allergies, cancers, digestive problems, poisonings etc etc from their food, the environment besides genetics.


It avoids many of the flesh/animal product unhealthy contents of the list above problems. Resistance to antibiotics to treat humans AND dogs is a major concern in vets hospitals as warned by the WHO World Heath Organisation due to 70 percent of ALL antibiotics used for Farmed animals to keep them alive just long enough before they are killed.



ZERO WASTE VEGAN "Pets/Companion Animals" ISSUES !

PETS/COMPANION ANIMALS ARE NOT a VEGAN way of living with other animals ! PETS ARE SLAVES OF HUMANS ! in an ideal world ANIMALS would NOT be OWNED as PROPERTY by us humans. We humans have created Frankenstein unnatural suffering freaks of nature in so many breeds of pets and farm animals engineered by selective breeding by HUMANS.

We call them "pets" a derogatory ownership implying term adding " companionship animals" to make us feel better about them being OWNED and having no CHOICE in who owns them or anything else about their lives. Their natural instincts would lead them to go run free off leads anywhere they pleased, coming to us when and  IF they pleased and not being FED by us as no adult animal in a "natural" world is fed by another animal they feed themselves.

So EVERYTHING about a "pet/companion animal" is unnatural in reality. Considering the "unnatural" urban living in houses and driving in cars airplanes world we humans live in, the animals we have domesticated over centuries are indeed unnatural prisoners. "PET" is a patronising word for an animal in reality.

In his 1982 book Fettered Kingdoms, Mr Bryant, a 'humane' pest controller who has previously served twice on the RSPCA council, compared pet keeping to slavery, writing: 'Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles — from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it.

'The cat, like the dog, must disappear. We should cut the domestic cat free ... The right of every single fish to live out its life as nature intended is an animal rights issue.'

ADOPT DO NOT BUY SPECIFICALLY BRED pets is the Vegan approach...and DO NOT BREED pets. So many many Pets/Companion Animals" are abandoned and destroyed killed due to lack of space and resources to keep them. 50 percent of all RSPCA dogs and cats in the UK are destroyed...over 50 thousand abandoned cats and dogs per year in the UK alone...HUNDREDS of thousands in every single so called Advanced Country in the world !

Rescues of dogs and cats can save even more lives by feeding those rescue animals VEGAN of course.

Such an example is ..Little Rainbow Sanctuary ...in the USA. Little Rainbow Sanctuary is a non-profit, all volunteer space to rescue farm/domesticated animals. Located in Black Mountain, Nc.Mission.  A place where humanity is humane.

https://www.facebook.com/littlerainbowsanctuary/ and https://littlerainbowsanctuary.wordpress.com/

"We strive to grow most of our own food Little Rainbow Sanctuary we buy VDog and all food and supplies from vegancats.com Additionally we do not use pest control for mice, rats, nor insects as most sanctuaries do." ZERO WASTE VEGANS !


Now the most IMPORTANT matter regarding WASTE and PETS is to realise...1 NON VEGAN PET would cause the WASTED LIVES Of 200 ANIMALS PER YEAR for food if fed raw/Barf ! 3000 animals lives over 1 pet 15 year lifetime ! which is actually not the diet that vets and the world top nutrition organisations (see links and basis for figures below) recommend that we feed our pets. If the 20 million cat and dog owners in the UK alone fed their pets RAW/BARF it would mean 60 BILLION BRED TO BE KILLED AS PETFOOD FARM ANIMALS for the 15 year average lifetime. 600 billion animals to breed and feed 200 million USA pet dogs and cats over their 15 year lifetimes.


Additionally...the effects of dogs and cats as PETS on the environment are enormous...pet cats that live outside kill trillions of small mammal and bird NATURAL WILDLIFE that is already struggling to survive...70 percent of ALL wildlife everywhere has disappeared in the past 40 years...the turtle dove the partridge in the UK practically EXTINCT. Hedgehogs even now in SANCTUARIES. Pesticides and reduced habitats are the main causes ...and animal agriculture is the main cause of that of course.

If maintaining unnatural PETS that kill and eat other animals...it contributes to the overall DESTRUCTION of WILDLIFE and the environment.

Cats which are an invasive unnatural species in their pet status can live indoors with plenty toys etc happily and safe from cars running them over sickness poisonings from eating poisoned rats and mice or other pesticides and chemicals on lawns etc and most of all save trillions of lives of wildlife.

http://essendonvet.com.au/pet-library/should-you-be-concerned-if-your-pet-eats-a-rat-or-mouse Diseases pet cats can get from eating wildlife.


PET WASTE ! pooh ! now this is ENORMOUSLY damaging to the environment.

Biodegradable pet pooh bags do exist..Veggiepets sell them online.

In addition...VEGAN PETS pooh degrades FASTER and is LESS dangerous to the health and environment.

I like many use Biodegradable poop bags...and the additional zero waste positive factor of vegan cats and dogs is that being vegan their poop biodegrades faster than dead flesh based waste. When i see the overflowing bins of bags of pet poop in parks and the billions of kg of poop of pets it sure is helping zero waste to be vegan poop and biodegradable poop bags. i get mine from veggiepets as in stores often non biodegradable ones. eeek ! just read the just under 10 million pet dogs in the UK alone create PER DAY 1000 tonnes of dog pooh waste ! that takes much longer to degrade if flesh based of course. Another VEGAN contribution to zero waste.

Dog waste is also full of E. Coli and other harmful bacteria including fecal coliform bacteria, which causes serious kidney disorders, intestinal illness, cramps and diarrhea in humans. The waste can also strain local resources when it needs to be picked up.

According to the study, £22 million ($37million) is spent per year on ‘dog waste collection’ by local agencies in England and Wales.


I am sure CATS POOH is equally dangerous to the environment and human health and obviously when VEGAN faster biodegraded.



on another vegan group just now reading the foods other vegan cats and dogs love to eat...i realised ! another zero waste saving i have from my vegan dogs ...WATER resources and WASHING UP LIQUID saved ! why ? my dogs LICK MASSIVELY EFFICIENTLY CLEAN my plates after I have finished eating...and any food uneaten ! I must add the PET POOP and ZERO WASTED FOOD issues to my summary page as additional to my NUMBERS calculations MY personal input on that page of use to others ! yes yes ! this ZERO WASTE issue needs a special section on my page now...thx to reading here and elsewhere...this was the comment I left just now elsewhere..."It is delightful to read of what favorite veggies etc some of our vegan cats and dogs love ! now having stated my bitch loves peanuts that means I have to buy more and she shells them faster than I can lol I think it isnt equal shares when faced with a bag of those...brussel sprouts I had not ever WASTED myself and my plate being out of reach of my dogs to avoid them eating MY food I will think of making some EXTRA to put in their vegan kibble...hoping the WIND factor sprouts cause in me doesnt mean more LAVENDER air freshener essential oils sprays needed lol ! ah BEANS...baked beans I note some like...well last night it was my tomato and basil soup I didnt finish my male woolfed down lol. ZERO WASTE meals certainly the case in this house even WASHING UP LIQUID saved as the dogs lick my plates clean wink wink !"


The NATURAL arguments.

Well once we accept our PETS are not NATURAL creations as breeds designed like modern farm animals by humans selective reproduction not EVOLUTION we can start to open our minds better than live in fantasies that we humans are also grunting neandertals living in caves dragging women around by the hair without WIFI and not FLYING in the skies like BIRDS do naturally in planes etc etc. The very fact that anyone is FEEDING their PETS tells us they are not wild cannot survive without our control over them well and if they did they would die NATURAL deaths early on through poisoning of food they might catch for themselves like bones piercing their stomachs and diseases generally that wild animals die from. Of a litter of WILD WOLVES a minority lived to the ages our modern pet dogs live as they DIED from all sorts of such things NATURALLY. Foxes are the closest remaining WILD animal similar to our pet cats and dogs...they eat skin fur and bones of animals they catch...so where are those elements of any of our PETS that eat RAW/BARF ? and what about accepting the DEATHS caused by perforated stomachs by bones and diseases from the animals eaten ? so humans to keep their pets alive of course control and change what an animal living WILD would eat in reality. Fish today have toxins like mercury and plastic beads in them that do not disintegrate...pollution has caused this. Those that eat fish nowadays increase the risks of CANCERS we have recently been informed by scientists in the human nutrition and health fields....it is not illogical to realise those toxins and cancer risks are also passed on to our pet dogs and cats if they eat them. Pesticides hormones etc in the factory farmed even grass fed farm animals eating pesticide coated grasses pass into the food chain. Cancer etc risks from all that.

Wolves realities...Average lifespan 8 years, however only 1 of the litter usually survive to adulthood. Close family unit supported and trained by all the pack of approximately 8 wolves the young leave the pack at approximately 2 years old to create new packs. This was in the past when movement was easy, today the world has changed for wolves as all living creatures. PET DOGS have NOTHING in common with the lives of wolves ! They are CASTRATED by us humans ! do not live in packs who instinctively decide which wolves mate and reproduce ...their young do not live with them for 2 years before parting ! etc etc ! What did 7 out of 8 baby wolves die of before reaching age 8 ? poisoning from food often !

Do animals NATURALLY live in houses and sleep on couches and beds ? do they EAT OFF PLATES ? do they wear collars and chains and bells and leads ? Castrate/Sterilise themselves ? What ADULT ANIMAL has an animal of another species PROVIDE FOOD to it ? COOK their food ? is cooked food NATURAL to animals ? need I answer that obvious question lol ? Do our pets CHOOSE to be STERILISED and CASTRATED ? do we really think that we humans do not make ENORMOUS numbers of  CHOICES about every day of our pets' lives that are AGAINST their natural CHOICES ? when did any dog or cat show it wanted to be sterilised or castrated ? Our pets get no choices about even where they live ! we humans decide all that for them. They do not decide even the TIME or quantity of their MEALS ! we force all that on them. No lion in the wild ever eats cooked meat or asks for that...and yet we do that to our pet cats and dogs...force our choices on our pets in all areas of their lives. A PET unlike a WILD animal has FOOD PROVIDED for it by an animal of another species ! that is totally UNNATURAL ! We humans have FORCED all this unnatural lifestyle on  the PET SPECIES of animals that we humans have engineered and selectively bred UNNATURALLY !

Does a pet cat or dog recognise what the PASTE or KIBBLE food we provide them with as anything in particular ? all they recognise is FOOD ! nutrients !

We humans "deprive" our pets of their possible instincts to go KILL OTHER ANIMALS to eat ! we hardly allow our pet dogs to go rip up other peoples pet cats/rabbits/ducks ! so we "force" them against their "instincts" by training forcing them to comply with OUR lifestyle wishes in all things...we chain them...house them and take them out for walkies when WE want to.

Regarding TASTE...our pets are more attracted by their 4000 times stronger than humans sense of SMELL rather than TASTE. We humans enjoy variety in our food..variety of taste...however our canine companions have less ability to tolerate great variety and it upsets their digestive systems often to change their diets so a more routine standard not varied diet is actually better for them.

When some people try to talk about only eating NATURAL food...when it comes to PETS...let us be under no illusions...we provide them for 99 percent of us with COOKED HUMAN PREPARED foods. Cooking is NOT something animals do themselves lol of course...so from the very start...we are "forcing" if that is the word some like to use food or walkies or housing etc on our pets that is NOT NATURALLY THEIR CHOICE...and my dogs..like many dogs...would CHOOSE to eat CHOCOLATE massively which would KILL THEM ! so I do not think CHOICE of that should be allowed to them as it would kill them. When has a cat hunted and brought down a cow to eat ? what lion/cat goes fishing for fish to eat ? yet humans provide beef and fish to pet cats that is cooked processed food ! Since wild cats...ancient ancestors of our modern PET breeds of cats hunt and kill mice birds and small mammals like rodents mostly it would be more "natural" to feed pet cats those animals rather than cows sheep and fish ! let alone not cook them !

COOKING FLESH/MEAT increases CANCER risks in humans...the World Health Organisation has stated this clearly for flesh dead animals meat products...bbq processed foods being the most risky.

Now referring to FLESH...it seems the VETS area also saying COOKING destroys nutrients in pet foods based on flesh of dead animals ! and probably adds cancer risks to them also...COOKING is of course unnatural to animals we humans do that...so ALL the food we feed our PETS is unnatural to them ...unless they eat raw uncoooked peanuts etc ! raspberries etc as that cat video on this group was so nice to see ! oh well. COOKING is FORCING UNNATURAL FOOD on our pets...is the ultimate conclusion. Taurine is generally always added as SYNTHETIC to all cat foods so not NATURAL whether VEGAN or NON VEGAN flesh of animals based petfood. http://www.vetanswers.com.au/blog/post/lack-of-taurine-in-new-cat-food-source-of-concern/72

So now I tend to believe that of COURSE our pets are fed (not FORCED I add) COOKED food by us and VEGAN cooked food is fine. It is about NUTRIENTS our pet needs at the end of the day. Since petfoods have those added to them to make them balanced and nutritionally complete we have to accept a compromise and just hope the quality of the food sourced is non GMO and not too full of pesticides, antibiotics and  chemicals that pass anyway into any FLESH of dead animals if humans or pets eat those.

AND before anyone starts up about fantasising our pet cats and dogs are lions and wolves...they are not...and those that lived naturally in the wild often DIED of diseases of the animals flesh they ate...perforated stomachs from bones...all sorts of causes of deaths due to dead flesh animals THEY killed or they ate that had died of diseases etc...is THAT what anyone wishes for a pet animal ? Since the food we humans feed our pets is not natural since processed by us humans whether BRED Frankenstein suffering chickens etc fed antibiotics etc etc...NOTHING is "natural" about our pets feeding needs. When did pets have Dinner times and bowls to eat from in the "wild" lol ? why do we FORCE our pets to eat out of plates ? it is funny sometimes to see this use of the word "natural" in context of pets that live with us in houses and do not go walkies unless allowed to on leashes by us.

10 million cats in the UK would mean approximately 30 billion animals for their lifetimes to be bred and KILLED...housed fed and pollution dealt with air and water and land use that would be taken from wildlife habitats if fed a raw dead animals diet. 30 BILLION ANIMALS to breed and kill for uk pet cats alone ! get real ! (estimating 1 cat eats say 4 animals per week  if eating RAW only that makes approximately 200 animals per year and approximately 3000 animals in a 15 year lifetime per cat. Cats eat fish based foods often which are smaller than chicken size animals so average of 200 animals taken. A small bird weighs about 30 grams and an average adult cat needs to eat approximately 150 grams per day of food which would theoretically be 5 birds per day of sparrow or 5 mice/rats or 1 baby rabbit size animal per day so 4 animals per week is a conservative estimate of lives taken to feed a pet cat.  Since humans do not breed wild birds and mice to feed pet cats it means rabbits or chickens or cow beef or pig pork flesh so the calculations of numbers of LIVES of the larger animals would be lower than if rabbit flesh of course. A chicken is average say 1.5kg weight so 1 chicken would feed 1 cat of weight say 3kg for 10 days...36 chickens per year per cat...550 chickens per 1 cat lifetime. To feed 10 million pet cats on chickens would mean 5 billion chicken lives taken if fed RAW/BARF )  There are about 94 million pet cats in the USA and about 90 million pet dogs. It would be environmentally a massively destructive effect to feed those pets BARF / RAW besides not actually being considered HEALTHY by many experts or common sense. 

A DOG of medium size 26kg weight needs on a RAW/BARF diet approximately 700 grams per day food. Approximately 4 whole chickens per week.

https://www.naturesmenu.co.uk/advice-centre/faqs has calculator for different sizes of pets and type of food for RAW/BARF.

10 million pet dogs would consume therefore 30 billion chickens for their average say 15 year long lifetimes bred by humans and killed if fed BARF/RAW.

The UK has under 20 million pet dogs and cats in total so to feed those for their lifetimes would mean breeding and killing 60 billion animals if fed RAW/BARF over 15 years total lifetimes. 4 billion animals per year if all fed RAW. 3000 animals eaten per 1 pet 15 year lifetime if fed RAW. 200 animals per pet per year if fed RAW.

Compared to 18 billion animals if they were all fed only 30 percent flesh based kibble for their 15 year lifetimes. 1 billion per year on mix kibble. 60 animals per pet per year on mix kibble.

The USA has about 200 million pet dogs and cats in total so to feed those for their lifetimes would mean breeding and killing 600 billion animals if fed RAW/BARF over 15 years. 40 billion animals per year if all fed RAW. 3000 animals eaten per 1 pet lifetime if fed RAW.  200 animals per pet per year if fed RAW.

Compared to 180 billion animals if they were all fed only 30 percent flesh based kibble for their 15 year lifetimes. 12 billion per year on mix kibble. 60 animals per pet per year.

The average non vegan kibble petfood is about 30 percent dead animal content...so ? assuming 80 percent of pets (160 million pets) are fed kibble not RAW that means ? less dead other animals killed to feed pets compared to RAW feeding...would be maybe 144 BILLION ANIMALS BRED and killed to feed the kibble fed PETS in the USA and if 20 percent of the 200 million pets (40 million pets) are fed RAW an additional 120 BILLION ANIMALS BRED and killed to feed the RAW FED PETS in the USA over a 15 year period/lifetime of the 200 million usa pets dogs and cats.

Total currently being therefore 264 BILLION ANIMALS BRED AND KILLED to feed 200 million current level of home owned USA PET OWNED DOGS AND CATS. Based on 20 percent fed RAW and 80 percent fed KIBBLE mix. (over average pets lifetimes of 15 years basis) 18 billion animals per year. (200 animals per year on RAW/BARF per pet and 60 animals per year on 30 percent flesh kibble per pet)

Britain PETFOOD deaths of other animals involved based on the same split of kibble / RAW fed as 80/20 would mean the 20 million current levels of British Pet dogs and cats on average currently cause the breeding and killing of  26 BILLION animals size/weight of rabbits/chickens over their average pet lifetime of 15 years basis. 2 billion animals per year. RAW pet consumes 3000 animals Kibble fed pet consumes 900 in a pet lifetime.

Average number of Killed for pet food animals in an average 15 year lifetime for a RAW fed pet is 3000 animals(200 animals per year)...and for a Kibble mix fed pet is 900 (60 animals per year). Based on rabbit/chicken sized animals. (If fish many more lives of course) but lets stick with general averages based on rabbits and chickens common petfood animals.

Consider this ethical issue...an abandoned cat or dog ... currently of the over 50 thousand PER YEAR abandoned in the UK alone 50 percent are killed every year.

25 000 PETS destroyed every year in the UK. Over a 15 year period that makes 375 000 pets...coming up to HALF A MILLION. If keeping a RESCUE pet alive means destroying 900 other animals to just keep it alive for a 15 year lifetime (on a 30 percent flesh kibble food it is 900 animals but if fed RAW it is 3000 animals lives) ...maybe to reduce the waste of lives all these rescue dogs and cats should be destroyed if fed RAW/BARF. Why breed and kill so many more animals ? is a valid question. Every animal values its life does not want to suffer or be killed...chickens exist per DEFRA standards in cages of 19 chickens per 1m2 space for 6 weeks life length only if broiler chickens intended for MEAT.

Working on some numbers...to do with NO KILL POLICY of pets... 1000 USD per Pet average cost per year TOO LOW ESTIMATE cost assuming none get sick and need more than vaccines and worming tablet vet fees. 40 Million pet cats and dogs in the USA alone at the end of 10 years of 4 million per year NO KILL POLICY would result in at least 40 billion USD annual ongoing costs to keep them alive.  Rescue_Pets_Cats_Dogs_Costs


Am I pleased  I do not feed my dogs petfood of animal substance ! the numbers looking at the USA figures of slaughtered for human consumption animals and average human consumption figures indicate that petfood flesh must be sourced from dubious sources ! cruelty cases sick diseased animals not on the slaughter numbers of those slaughtered for human consumption. 

PET FOOD ! If Flesh/Animal content based…is using the most diseased unhealthy parts of animals in petfood cancers/tumours included. It is also sourced from the cheapest imported animal parts subject due to being PETFOOD to the lowest failed quality controls of course for human food." the QUALITY issue !

apart from the NUMBERS of ANIMALS killed for PETFOOD involved...which is for the USA based on weight/size of chicken/rabbit size animals 18 billion chickens/rabbits per year to feed USA 200 million pet dogs and cats a 30 percent flesh/animal parts based kibble (20 pecent of the 200 million feeding 100 percent RAW make that number high....3000 animals per pet eaten if fed RAW over 1 average pet lifetime or 900 animals if fed a 30 percent animal content kibble)


The US National Library of MedicineNational Institutes of Health Research Article on Cat and Dog Vegan Diets:Scientific Authority body Andrew Knight and Madelaine Leitsberger Clive J. C. Phillips, Academic Editor Centre for Animal Welfare, University of Winchester, Winchester SO22 4NR, UK;

...quote..."Both cats and dogs may thrive on vegetarian diets, but these must be nutritionally complete and reasonably balanced." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5035952/ and "a significant and growing body of population studies and case reports have indicated that cats and dogs maintained on vegetarian diets may be healthy—including those exercising at the highest levels—and, indeed, may experience a range of health benefits"  Received 2016 Jul 8; Accepted 2016 Sep 14.Andrew Knight BSc (Vet Biol), BVMS, CertAW, MANZCVS, DipECAWBM (AWSEL), DACAW, PhD, MRCVS, SFHEA.   Professor of Animal Welfare and Ethics / Director, Centre for Animal Welfare. European and American Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare, and for around a decade prior to 2012  practiced veterinary medicine. a European and RCVS Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare Science, Ethics and Law; an American Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare; and a Senior Fellow of the UK Higher Education Academy. Excluding abstracts and letters Andrew has over 65 academic publications and a series of youtube videos on animal issues. These include an extensive series examining the contributions to human healthcare of animal experiments, which formed the basis for his 2010 PhD and his 2011 book The Costs and Benefits of Animal Experiments. Andrew’s other publications have examined the contributions of the livestock sector to climate change, vegetarian companion animal diets, the animal welfare standards of veterinarians, and the latest evidence about animal cognitive and related abilities, and the resultant moral implications. His informational websites include www.AnimalExperiments.info, www.HumaneLearning.info and www.VegePets.info


This  world top nutritional organisation https://www.canadianveterinarians.net/science-knowledge/cvj-current-issue#.UT4qgFcZQwc  Department of Veterinary Clinical and Diagnostic Sciences, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, University of Calgary, 3330 Hospital Drive NW, Calgary, Alberta T2N 4N1 (Schlesinger); Calgary Animal Referral and Emergency Centre, 7140–12th St SE, Calgary, Alberta T2H 2Y4 (Schlesinger, Joffe) did a report on RAW diets ! and concluded ? not recommended ! like the already provided by me vet top organisations that conclude overall AGAINST raw/barf pet feeding the organisation states..."https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3003575/ "there is a lack of large cohort studies to evaluate risk or benefit of raw meat diets fed to pets"

astonishing ! I only discovered this report 3rd June 2017

What do other major Health Professional Organisations to do with Pet Animals say officially ?

What do the experts say about feeding pets raw diets?  Just because wild animals eat raw meats does not imply that these foods are safe!
A number of professional associations have condemned the practice of feeding raw food to dogs and cat: 

AVMA Leadership

AVMA Officers


Past proponents of raw food diets believed that this was the healthiest food choice for pets. It was also assumed that feeding such a diet would cause no harm to other animals or to humans. There have subsequently been multiple studies showing both these premises to be false. Based on overwhelming scientific evidence, AAHA does not advocate or endorse feeding pets any raw or dehydrated nonsterilized foods, including treats that are of animal origin.

Homemade raw food diets are unsafe because retail meats for human consumption can be contaminated with pathogens. Studies that have been done on both commercially available and homemade raw protein diets have found a high percentage (30–50 percent) of them contaminated with pathogenic organisms, and up to 30 percent of the dogs fed such diets may shed pathogenic organisms in their stool. Many of the pathogens found in raw protein diets can be transmitted to the human population by contact with the food itself, pet, or environmental surfaces. A disturbing number of these organisms have also been shown to be resistant to multiple antimicrobials.

Raw protein diets are now demonstrated to be a health risk for several groups, including:

People at highest risk of serious disease from the enteric pathogens found in raw diets include those that are very young, old, or immune-compromised. These are the very groups that are the focus of most animal-assisted intervention (AAI) programs. It is especially important that therapy pets involved in AAI not be fed raw protein diets.

AAHA is committed to the human community, the veterinary medical profession, our AAHA hospitals, and the patients we serve in recommending the best known medical practices using evidence-based medicine. We value the relationships between our pets and their families, along with the positive impact that they have on the larger population, such as in AAI programs. Feeding a raw protein diet no longer concerns only each individual pet, but has become a larger community health issue; for this reason, AAHA can no longer support or advocate the feeding of raw protein diets to pets.

The American Association of Feline Practitioners (AAFP) and the National Association of State Public Health Veterinarians (NASPHV) have both endorsed this statement.


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Good Nutrition for Healthy Vegan Dogs

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Putting Together a Basic Meal
Protein & Carbohydrates
Enzymes & Beta-carotene
Taurine, L-Carnitine & B12
Oils & Essential Fatty Acids
Resources for Information and Supplies


Many people are surprised to learn that not only can dogs enjoy vibrant health on a vegan diet, but just like people, their physical condition can actually improve as a result of eliminating animal foods.

By genus, dogs are classified as carnivorous, but metabolically, they are actually omnivorous. This means that their nutritional requirements can be adequately met with a plant-based diet – as they can source or synthesize all the nutrients they require from plant foods with supplementation.

Skeptical? Check out the story of  Bramble and the book story of the dog on amazon  Bramble  a vegan dog who lived to the age of 28 – a Welsh Border Collie making her one of the world’s longest-living dogs. Or how about the story of Piggy:

“When we first found him on the streets of the Dominican Republic, Piggy was just a pup – he had no hair, he was skin hanging over a skeleton, and he could barely walk a couple of blocks,” Tod recalls. “After a few months recovering on his vegetarian diet, he literally tripled in size to 45 pounds, gained a foot in height, exploded with healthy, soft fur … and he runs for miles on his three legs.”

Still not sure? Consider this story from CNN, where six veterinarians agreed that the nutritional requirements of dogs can be adequately met with a vegan diet.

“The important thing is that you use a diet that has been shown to be nutritionally adequate for whatever stage of life you’re feeding, and it is absolutely possible to find a good quality commercial pet food that doesn’t have animal products in it,” states veterinarian Kathryn E. Michel, an associate professor of nutrition at the University of Pennsylvania’s School of Veterinary Medicine.

Michel recommends using commercial pet food that has gone through the Association of American Feed Control Officials feeding trials. “Or, if you prefer to cook meals from scratch, consult a credentialed expert in dog nutrition to ensure a proper balance of essential nutrients.” (See resources at the end of this article for more information.)

Sandy Anderson, owner and founder of VeganPet in Australia, explains the philosophy behind the development of her products:

“The National Research Council Committee on Animal Nutrition (NRC) and the Association of American Feed Control Officials (AAFCO) have published guidelines of the minimum dietary requirements for dogs and cats… [Since 2005,] I have been working on making a dog and cat food using vegan alternatives. This food meets the NRC and AAFCO standards and, in some instances, exceeds them. The body’s basic building, energizing and replacing materials can come from a meat or chicken source or from a soybean and seaweed source. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that the basic cellular structure is the same from either source. I have now found all the vegan alternatives and am able to produce nutritionally-balanced food for both cats and dogs.”

In addition, there is evidence demonstrating that vegan diets might actually offer benefits to dogs who suffer from various health problems. As stated on the Harbingers of a New Age website:

“Studies and numerous case reports have shown that nutritionally sound vegetarian companion animal diets appear to be associated with the following health benefits: increased overall health and vitality, decreased incidences of cancer, infections, hypothyroidism, ectoparasites (fleas, ticks, lice and mites), improved coat condition, allergy control, weight control, arthritis regression, diabetes regression and cataract resolution.”

Over decades of experience of caring for rescued dogs in Gentle World, we’ve learned a number of things along the way that we feel are important for caregivers to know about.

As stated in the CNN article, because a dog has certain important nutritional requirements that are different to our own, it is necessary to pay careful attention to their needs, as you are making their decisions for them. But with a well-supplemented, balanced diet that is based on whole-foods, your canine companions can easily thrive as vegans. The health and vitality of our four-legged friends has actually surprised a few conventional vets!

If your dog is currently eating an animal-based diet, it’s wise to be gentle and careful when switching to plant-based food, as any change in diet has the potential to cause digestive disorders. Many dogs (especially young dogs who don’t have ingrained carnivorous habits) will take to it right away, but for some, it may take a few days before they are even willing to try this new, meat-free fare.

During the transition time, it’s a good idea to offer them foods that they find particularly irresistible (read on for suggestions). Once they realize how delicious their new food can be, we find that they tend to adjust pretty easily!

There are some important differences to be aware of. Non-vegetarian dogs generally eat one meal a day, whereas vegan dogs should get two smaller meals daily, plus snacks. A healthy snack would be several dog biscuits or a handful or two (depending on the size of your dog) of dry kibble.

For those who want the convenience or reassurance of ready-made foods that are nutritionally complete, there are a number of 100% vegetarian dog foods and snacks that meet canine nutrient standards. But to make it more affordable, and to incorporate more whole foods, we usually mix in home-made foods (explained below), along with some of the pre-made kibble, canned food or VegeDog supplement to help meet nutritional requirements.

Other simple points to take note of:

NB: There are some common human foods that cause toxic reactions in dogs. Onions, raw garlic, chocolate, nutmeg, raisins, and macadamia nuts are all known to be toxic to dogs. The ASPCA has a good list of foods that should remain ‘people foods’.

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Putting Together a Basic Meal

At least a third to a half of your dog’s meal should consist of a quality protein source. The remaining portion can be made up of a variety of whole grains, raw and cooked vegetables, as well as certain supplemental items. The following pages contain more specifics.

The Vegan Dog Nutrition Association recommends that the base of the meal be comprised of soybeans, lentils, rice, oats and sweet potatoes. Our favorite vegan vet tells us that pinto beans are the most non-allergenic food for vegan dogs, and that (along with sweet potatoes and carrots) they provide a good basis for the diet. Pinto beans and sweet potatoes can also be used exclusively for up to 6 to 8 weeks to determine whether your dog is suffering from food allergies.

NB: All legumes should be well-cooked (until very soft) and preferably mashed or puréed in a food processor.

Adding a sprinkling of sea vegetable flakes such as kelp or dulse helps to ensure a dietary source of minerals.

Dogs can enjoy fruit in small amounts – if they will eat it. Our dogs have enjoyed a variety of fruits, ranging from bananas, apples and orange, to watermelon! Just make sure that you don’t feed your dog fruit too close to a high-protein meal. The enzymes are different and can cause digestive discomfort.

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Protein & Carbohydrates

A dog’s protein requirements are greater than ours. To ensure that your dog gets enough, make sure that approximately a third to a half of their meal consists of a high-quality protein source (such as well-cooked legumes – pintos, chick peas, soy beans, lentils, and split peas are all good). Other high-protein foods include tempeh, tofu, TVP, hummus, sprouted lentils/garbanzo beans (ground/blended).

Unless your dog requires a grain-free diet for health reasons, well-cooked whole grains are good sources of both protein and carbohydrates, as well as other nutrients such as B vitamins. We’ve found that whole grains in moderation work really well for our dogs, including brown rice, quinoa, millet, polenta (corn grits) or blended fresh corn kernels, oats, barley, and buckwheat.

Seitan (wheat-meat) is a high-protein vegetarian ‘meat’ made from gluten flour. Dogs absolutely love it, and (just like with humans) seitan can be a great help when ‘veganizing’ a formerly carnivorous dog. But since wheat gluten should not be consumed to excess, seitan remains an occasional treat for our dogs, as it is for our people.*

* NB: Plant-based meat alternatives sold in stores for humans are usually made from a combination of wheat gluten and soy, and are just as delectable to dogs as seitan is, but they tend to be more highly processed than home-made seitan. They’re nice for an occasional treat, or to win over a dog (or cat) who is used to the taste of meat, but they’re not very healthy to eat on a regular basis, for dogs or for humans.

Enzymes & Beta-carotene

Sweet potatoes, carrots and other orange-colored root vegetables are important sources of beta-carotene, and should be included on a regular basis (cut finely and/or mashed). Regular potatoes (in small pieces or mashed) are also fine to include on occasion, but they do not include this important nutrient. Dogs convert beta-carotene into Vitamin A, which is a necessary nutrient that is hard for them to get elsewhere in a plant-based diet.

Other vegetables (also cut finely and/or mashed) are good to include whenever possible, for the vitamins, minerals, enzymes and fiber. The best choices are pumpkin, squash, yams, carrots, and also other small bits of broccoli, brussels sprouts, cooked cabbage, etc. Raw, grated carrot and/or beetroot is good, as well as sprouts, and/or raw, dark leafy greens, finely chopped and mixed in well with their meals.

Some authorities recommend adding digestive enzymes to a dog’s diet, though this is not something we’ve had reason to be concerned about. The company Harbingers of a New Age sells a product called Prozyme; a supplement for dogs that contains all of the enzymes they require.

There are also some excellent supplements available for dogs, cats and other companion animals that are made from dark green leafy vegetables and other highly nutritious plant foods. One such product (which also happens to contain all the essential digestive enzymes as well as a comprehensive probiotic mixture) is called Green Mush, produced by Health Force Nutritionals. Green Mush is a whole food, green plant based powder, that includes large amounts of CoQ10, which is a powerful antioxidant involved in energy production and longevity. The owners of Health Force state that the product can be helpful for dogs, cats, rabbits, rats, guinea pigs, hamsters, mice, ferrets, squirrels, other mammals and human animals too! Health Force Nutritionals is an excellent resource for both human and nonhuman nutritional needs.

vegan dogs

Taurine, L-Carnitine & B12

Vegetarian dog specialists and most companies that sell vegan dog food advise adding taurine and L-carnitine to the diets of vegan dogs. These are two amino acids that are naturally found in animal flesh, but do not naturally occur in plants. Dogs cannot synthesize these nutrients themselves. Deficiencies can be potentially serious, so a supplement is an important preventative measure. Both of these nutrients can be bought at your local health food store, and they are also included in many commercial vegan dog products.

Another supplement that we have included in our dogs’ diets is nutritional yeast; either Red Star Vegetarian Support Formula or Lotus Brands – both of which are rich in B vitamins, and are fortified with Vitamin B12. Whether or not you include nutritional yeast in your dog’s food, you should make sure that they receive an adequate source of B12.

NB: Harbingers of a New Age provides a supplement called ‘VegeDog’, which provides two of these: Vitamin B12 and taurine. One month’s supply of this fantastic product costs just $12.00. That’s only 40 cents per day to make sure that your dog is getting these important nutrients, as well as other essential vitamins and minerals.

Oils & Essential Fatty Acids

Dogs need a certain amount of oil in their diets, and if they’re lacking it, their coat will be a clear sign. A lusterless coat can transform after a few days of including a nutritious oil in the diet, such as flax. A dog’s oil requirements can also be met with 1-2 tablespoons of tahini (sesame seed butter), flax seed oil, hemp seed oil, or ground flax seeds.  A teaspoon or two of organic sunflower, olive, or other food oil poured over their food will get them to eat anything! Flax and hemp have the added benefit of being Omega-rich.

There are many studies that confirm the powerful healing benefits of giving dogs flax seed oil or another fatty acid blend. To ensure your dogs are receiving the necessary essential fatty acids (omegas 3, 6, & 9), add 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon of vegan essential fatty acid oil. Mustard seed oil contains all the essential fatty acids. An alternative (though it’s not as complete), would be flax seed oil, hemp seed oil, or 1 teaspoon of ground or soaked flax seeds. (This is beneficial for vegan humans as well). ‘Total EFA’ oil also serves other purposes such as helping joint function and coat health. These oils are especially important for senior dogs.

Vega EFA Oil Blend is made from a combination of antioxidant and phytonutrient rich seed oils including green tea seed oil and blueberry seed oil. Deva and V-Pure are now producing vegan DHA, long chain fatty-acids from seaweed in a capsule for humans, which you can share with your companion animals.

Cranimals organic supplements contain vegan EFAs like DHA and ALA, as well as beta-carotene and a host of other valuable phytonutrients (urinary tract, dental and heart healthy antioxidants from berry extracts and vitamins and minerals from organic spirulina). The powdered and liquid Cranimals supplements for dogs and cats, as well as their Zendog biscuits, supply EFAs from algae, flax and cranberries.


Being a responsible guardian for any animal means making an effort to ensure that his or her diet is nutritionally complete, just as you would for yourself. The best thing you can do for your animal friends is to continue to keep yourself informed, as there is new research being released all the time. To feel secure in your decisions, we suggest that you do some personal research as to the nutritional requirements of your dog’s specific breed.

Having said that, we have found that most vegans agree that it’s easy to feed dogs a plant-based diet. Even dogs who turn their noses up at vegan food when it is initially offered will often change their mind the next day when they get hungry! And within days, they eat with gusto, as if they had always been vegan!

The change in temperament that occurs as a result is remarkable. As dogs lose their taste for flesh and blood, their desire to hunt and kill tends to lessen, making them less aggressive and more gentle. We’ve actually watched our dogs evolve from killing small animals to protecting and gently playing with our rescued rabbits!

Our dogs have all made remarkable transformations on the vegan diet, both in physical health and in temperament. And for the committed vegan, it’s a beautiful way to get even closer with your canine friends.

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NB: There are a number of ‘nearly vegan’ dog foods marketed internationally that contain one or two ingredients that are not actually vegan. For example, some include animal-derived vitamin D3 rather than plant-based vitamin D2. If you are not sure that the product is 100% vegan, we suggest you contact the company to find out.


The US National Library of MedicineNational Institutes of Health Research Article on Cat and Dog Vegan Diets:Scientific Authority body Andrew Knight and Madelaine Leitsberger Clive J. C. Phillips, Academic Editor Centre for Animal Welfare, University of Winchester, Winchester SO22 4NR, UK;

...quote..."Both cats and dogs may thrive on vegetarian diets, but these must be nutritionally complete and reasonably balanced." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5035952/ and "a significant and growing body of population studies and case reports have indicated that cats and dogs maintained on vegetarian diets may be healthy—including those exercising at the highest levels—and, indeed, may experience a range of health benefits"  Received 2016 Jul 8; Accepted 2016 Sep 14.Andrew Knight BSc (Vet Biol), BVMS, CertAW, MANZCVS, DipECAWBM (AWSEL), DACAW, PhD, MRCVS, SFHEA.   Professor of Animal Welfare and Ethics / Director, Centre for Animal Welfare. European and American Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare, and for around a decade prior to 2012  practiced veterinary medicine. a European and RCVS Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare Science, Ethics and Law; an American Veterinary Specialist in Animal Welfare; and a Senior Fellow of the UK Higher Education Academy. Excluding abstracts and letters Andrew has over 65 academic publications and a series of youtube videos on animal issues. These include an extensive series examining the contributions to human healthcare of animal experiments, which formed the basis for his 2010 PhD and his 2011 book The Costs and Benefits of Animal Experiments. Andrew’s other publications have examined the contributions of the livestock sector to climate change, vegetarian companion animal diets, the animal welfare standards of veterinarians, and the latest evidence about animal cognitive and related abilities, and the resultant moral implications. His informational websites include www.AnimalExperiments.info, www.HumaneLearning.info and www.VegePets.info.

Where to find more information about vegetarian and vegan issues and diets for cats and dogs?

Fascinating true story about the famous little Tyke

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https://vimeo.com/24452300  Video on Vegan Dogs and Cat issues.  Dr. Armaiti May, who has a veterinary practice in Southern California, appeared as a guest speaker at a NW Veg event in Vancouver, WA. Dr. May is a vegan and incorporates her philosophy of compassion for all animals into the care she administers toward the pets she sees as patients.
She explains that dogs and even cats can be fed a meatless diet and still maintain good health, maybe even better health as vegan pets. She discusses how to transition your pet and what variations of response might be involved, and invites people to take part in a survey she is conducting on the health of long-tern vegan pets.
Other related topics are discussed as questions are opened up to the audience.
Dr. May can be reached at her website, veganvet.net.



there are many healthy thriving Vegan cats around. Without taking a group member picture of one here is one on an independent website clearly thriving and healthy vegan cat. as are the others. the vet approved vegan cat foods available now are fine. https://www.good.is/features/vegan-cats


Information provided by the Vegan Society..."Wakefield and colleagues (2006) compared the health of 34 cats maintained on vegetarian diets for at least a year, with that of 52 cats maintained on meat-based diets for at least a year. There were no significant differences in age, sex, body condition, housing, or perceived health status, with most cats described as healthy or generally healthy."

"There is no scientific reason why a diet comprised only of plant, mineral and synthetically-based ingredients cannot be formulated to meet all of the palatability, nutritional and bioavailability needs of the species for which it is intended. In fact, several commercially-available vegan diets for cats and dogs aim to do so, and have jointly supported thousands of healthy vegan cats, dogs and ferrets (who are also naturally carnivorous) for many years. Suppliers of such diets are listed here. "

https://www.vegsoc.org/factsvegetariancats Last updated September 2016

"Vegetarian pet foods and availability
The Vegetarian Society currently approves a number of vegetarian pet foods such as Benevo. Benevo Adult Cat Original and Benevo Due Cat and Dog Food
The Veggie Pets website also offers a range of vegetarian cat food."

Quote found also of Vet...Armaiti May, D.V.M, C.V.A., Dr. May's Veterinary House Calls
"In general, dogs are much easier to maintain on a vegan diet than are cats. Although cats are biologically carnivores, in many cases they can be successfully maintained on a vegan diet as lon
g as it meets all of the nutritional requirements specific to cats and their overall health is adequately monitored, with particular attention to urinary tract health. Cats require the same nine essential amino acids that are needed in the diet of all mammals. However, in addition, cats also require arginine and taurine. Taurine is found naturally in meat but can be supplied in synthetic form. Without adequate taurine, cats may go blind and may develop dilated cardiomyopathy (a type of heart disease)."

Interestingly my BENEVO dog food has Taurine in it I noticed ! 

http://www.vegancats.com/veganfaq.php#1070    Vegan Cats Website

LIONS can be VEGANS too....real life actual case.

http://www.vegepets.info/diets/veg-feline.html "Perhaps the most famous vegetarian ‘cat’ in America was an orphaned lioness named Little Tyke. Raised by Georges and Margaret Westbeau in the 1950s with a menagerie of other rescued animals, including a lamb, deer and swan – all of whom became her friends, Little Tyke resisted all attempts by the Westbeaus to feed her meat. She would reportedly even refuse milk mixed with a tiny amount of blood (Westbeau 1986).

African lions possess short, powerful jaws and have skulls highly adapted to killing and eating natural prey such as gnus, zebras, gazelles, impalas and giraffes. Made desperate by veterinarian claims Little Tyke would become severely ill without meat, the Westbeaus posted a $1,000 reward for anyone who could find a way to entice her to eat meat. In the meantime meals consisted of a double handful of cooked grains, chosen for their high protein content, and their calcium, fats, and roughage, along with a half gallon of milk and two eggs. Little Tyke refused bones, so to safeguard the health of her teeth and gums, the Westbeaus supplied rubber boots sprinkled with perfume, to which she was attracted. One boot lasted almost a month (Westbeau 1986).

At four years of age, this mature African lioness weighed 352 pounds or 160 kg. Her body stretched 10 feet 4 inches or 3.15 m in length, and she could run at 40 miles or 64 km per hour. One of America's most able zoo curators said Little Tyke was the best of her species he had ever observed. She had shown no signs of dietary deficiency, so the Westbeaus finally stopped trying to feed her meat, and finally ceased worrying about the dietary warnings their veterinarians had delivered. She eventually died of viral pneumonia contracted during a stressful episode of television filming (during which she licked day old chicks, and played with lambs, a kitten, and the producer's seven year old daughter), which was conducted during a heat wave (Westbeau 1986).

To date, hundreds of more conventionally sized cats have successfully been maintained – some for many years, on a vegetarian diet. Numerous accounts of these cats exist on the websites of vegetarian pet food suppliers and in the additional resources provided."

http://www.vegancats.com/ pet food supplies for vegan cats.

PETA page on Vegan Cats and Dogs....https://www.peta.org/living/companion-animals/vegetarian-cats-dogs/

"Many vegetarians and vegans feed healthful, meatless diets to their companion animals. One remarkable example is that of Bramble, a 27-year-old border collie whose vegan diet of rice, lentils, and organic vegetables earned her consideration by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world’s oldest living dog in 2002. Studies have shown that the ailments associated with meat consumption in humans, such as allergies, cancer, and kidney, heart, and bone problems, also affect many nonhumans. Pet food has also been recalled during mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), scares because of the risk that contaminated meat was processed into the food. One deputy commissioner states that cats especially “are susceptible to BSE.”"

"Vegetarian or vegan dogs and cats enjoy their food and good health, and a vegetarian diet for your companion animal is ethically consistent with animal rights philosophy."


"nutrients, not ingredients is what really matters"

Resources for Information and Supplies





Many pages of information and links to videos suppliers etc regarding Vegan Cats and Dogs

Suppliers and Recommendations of Vegan Cat and Dog food suppliers...http://www.vegepets.info/suppliers.html

1 Vegetarian Pet Foods


1.1 Australia & New Zealand

All Natural Pet Care
+64 9 626 5754
Importer and distributor of Ami Vegan Petfood
Supplier of vegecat, vegedog, vegekit, vegepup and vegeyeast nutritional supplements.

Augustine Approved
Melbourne, Australia - shipping worldwide
Producer of certified organic and certified vegan wholefood products for people and dogs
Producer of Augustine's SuperFood (starter kits) and Augustine's SuperBoost (supplements).

Vegan Pet
Suppliers in several Australian states and New Zealand
Manufacturer and supplier of "nutritionally complete and balanced" dry vegan cat and dog food formulated from 'natural ingredients, with the exception of synthetically produced taurine, niacin and some vitamins.'

An independent AU-based supplier of vegan and vegetarian foods. Offer many varieties of dog and cat food, snacks and chews, such as Pegetables, Dr Chew, Burp stik.


1.2 Europe

Padova, Italy
Manufacturer and international supplier of 'non-animal tested ecologically-sustainable vegetarian pet foods free of dyes, artificial preservatives and genetically-modified organisms'. Opposed to animal experimentation.

Hagenthal le Haut, France
Importer of AMI and Benevo vegan pet foods.

Supplier for Sweden for V-Dog (UK) and Benevo vegetarian dog and cat food. Sales via webshop and retailers.

Ethical Pets
"All our products fall into one or more of the following categories: fair trade, eco-friendly, recycled, organic, sustainable, vegan, high-welfare, non-toxic, and natural."
+44-(0)161 343 3371
Cheshire, UK

Hofbieber, Germany
Supplier of vegetarian dog and cat food, snacks and chews, such as Ami, Yarrah, Benevo, Vegusto, Vegourmet, Terra-Pura

+49-(0)8544-9185 50
Aicha vorm Wald, Germany
Supplier of vegetarian (Yarrah) and vegan (Ami Cat & Ami Dog) pet food.

Retail Benevo vegan pet foods in Belgium, Germany and The Netherlands.

Gent, Belgium
Importer of Amì vegan pet food for Belgium, Luxembourg and The Netherlands.

Veg' et Chat
Nimes, France
Supplier of vegecat, vegedog, vegekit, vegepup and vegeyeast nutritional supplements.

+44-(0)23 9245 3355
Havant, Hampshire, UK
Supplier of a range of non-animal tested vegan pet foods and nutritional supplements.

+41 71 470 04 04
Supplier of Vegusto and AMI vegetarian/vegan cat and dog food throughout Europe. National distributors exist in Switzerland, the UK and Italy.

+39 0422 301497
Supplier of Amì/Yarrah and Dorwest Herbs products. Sells only vegan and cruelty free products for dogs and cats.


1.3 US & Canada

US/CAN: 1-866-610-6004
Elsewhere: +1-905-473-5790
Markham, Ontario, Canada
Dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM – a heart disease) secondary to nutritional deficiencies of taurine and/or carnitine have been documented in golden retrievers, boxers, Doberman pinschers and cocker spaniels. ‘Giant’ canine breeds are also thought to be predisposed to DCM. Supplementation is advisable if doubt exists about dietary adequacy.

Dr Chew
Dog treats made from sweet potato

Green Leaf Vegan Distribution
Thornhill, Ontario, Canada
Distributor (to retailers, but can advise on outlet locations) of the AmiDog and AmiCat products

Harbingers of a New Age
Troy, MT, US
Manufacturer and supplier of vegecat, vegedog, vegekit, vegepup and vegeyeast nutritional supplements.

PetGuard Organics
Natural tinned vegan dog food "free of animal byproducts, artificial flavoring, coloring, sweeteners, corn, soy, wheat, and yeast."

Sacramento, CA, US
"Crunchy [dog] nuggets using only natural, healthy and wholesome ingredients and without the use of artificial colors or preservatives... approved by The Vegetarian Society... developed without the use of animal testing."

Waukesha, WI, US
US/CAN: 1-866-88-VEGAN
Elsewhere: +1-262-574-7761
International suppliers of a range of vegetarian pet food brands.

Top Vegan Vet Views http://www.vegepets.info/vets.html

Summary of references on Vegan Cat and Dog Diets http://www.vegepets.info/diets/summary.html

Conventional Cat and Dog foods often include shelter destroyed cats and dogs ! http://www.vegepets.info/resources/Publications/Vegan-pets-Knight-Lifescape-2008.pdf


Lastly but NOT LEAST ! real life PERSONAL VEGAN PET DOGS of mine lol ! My high energy VEGAN DOGS ! Falcon and Feja !

I went VEGAN fully AFTER my dogs had lol !

Current UK Vet for them is Daleside in Wrexham/Wrecsam North Wales. http://dalesidevets.co.uk/  On facebook there is a Vegan Vet Group also ! https://www.facebook.com/veterinaryvegannetwork/

My dogs were not always vegan...to start with I tried both standard prepared wet and dry packaged petfood as well as a short period of BARF/RAW feeding quickly abandoned.

I took a look one day at the content of the Royal Canin standard non vegan dogfood as well as Hills another high quality approved  non vegan brand and looked in petshops etc at other package details and realised...the actual FLESH content of standard petfoods was only 25 percent ! I thought well nutritional needs are obviously being met via the plant content of their foods. I heard at a Wolf Sanctuary in the mountains of France they were feeding their reserve kept wolves on standard low level flesh content food also ! they highly recommended not feeding the wolves RAW in fact...

Here is a short summary of the percentages on 1 standard non vegan kibble dogfood...I studied many packets...the majority of those sold in vets...have 25 percent flesh meal on average. "Burns Choice Chicken and Maize: £41.00 12kg: Burns have brought out a cheaper variety of their most common and classic recipes, it is called Burns Choice.

The ingredients are Whole Grain Maize 71% Chicken Meal 17% Peas, Chicken Oil, Seaweed, Vitamins, and Minerals."

Chicken MEAL at 17 PERCENT ! who are we kidding ? many packets do not DARE put the percentages in full view additionally ! because we would all realise...out dogs are almost VEGANS on non vegan kibble out there...and MEAL means the Ground up cancerous unfit for humans bits of animals ! and that crap...is making dogs ill ! If flesh called meat then that too is below human standards flesh...and full of toxins antibiotics processed pesticides etc. 

ooh ! edit on 10th nov 2017 ! a youtube video about making your own natural home made vegan dog food ! yankie doodle accent love it lol...dargs...means dogs lol !

https://youtu.be/duCYxzxnnDs    Gaia Glows Ajoutée le 8 nov. 2017


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Then my bitch got Stomach ulcers...besides kennel cough (in spite of vaccination) and Ehrlichiose (unvaccinatable fly sand insect bite caused deadly disease that attacks internal organs and blood of the dog in the space of a few days the dog can die and she nearly did, this can i read later also  lie dormant for 5 years with no obvious symptoms and rear its ugly head later therefore) so...all kinds of tests as usual to find the causes of any illness in my dogs done...medications given of course...but the ulcers were not going away...then came the acidity issue found to be responsible for the ulcers...I thought it was the meat that was acidic but no it is the stomac that reacts to the meat...anyway...acid..ulcers...simple words that i did understand at the time...and then told...go vegan...the dog needs to cut out meat/flesh  the medication isn't helping it is getting worse. So ? Dogs went vegan . It turns out that he acidity of  not meat itself but the acids produced in the stomac to digest meat excessively being harmful and  can be a contributory factor to stomach cancer ultimately.  I found on vet recommendations Royal Canin produced in Canada Vegetarian/Vegan dogfood kibble !  Meat is now proven scientifically to cause high risk stomac and other cancers in humans...seems highly likely our dogs are also having these similar reactions...the additives in cattle feed, pesticides put on crops and grasslands,  the antibiotics in farmed animals are not "natural" at all...all sorts of poisonous toxic substances are today in flesh. Seeing how greedy of many of my vegetable and nut foods my dogs were , the decision for them to go VEGAN was made...stomach ulcers disappeared...coats shiney and high energy visible...vet constant checks all fine...POOH turned SOFTER I did notice...and varied...sometimes mostly  HUGE light brown sausages like a chopped up swiss roll for my MALE dog and smaller darker brown more solid smaller longer sausages for my BITCH...but also often occasional porridge like light brown from my male...showing differences in stools of both dogs on the same diet...albeit SNACKS eaten varied as each dog has their preferences my male Falcon not so keen on peanuts that my bitch shells faster than I do lol ! I changed occasionally also from giving them home made mixes of cooked cereals with TOFU or changing from Organic to Non organic Kibble vegan food ...and noticed every time stool changes immediately ...organic seemed to produce darker more solid stools...different manufacturers also showed differences in the stools. They did NOT seem to digest QUORN well on 2 occasions given in emergency as out of food...a mushroom funghi human food...so that is to be avoided in future. 

Eating grass occasionally then vomiting episodes still continued for both dogs also. Especially immediately after a change of diet given to them or in reaction maybe to things as TREATS they had been given and eaten.

Dog Stools, Pooh, Poops are a useful indicator of state of health. For dogs, humans all of us. Too solid means constipation problems and too loose watery means diorhea problems indicating causes to be concerned about and try to identify. Worms can also be seen if the dogs have those but often invisible to the naked eye but also a possible cause of ill health besides evidence of having eaten something that does not agree with the dog or caused by other health problems.

I THINK IT IS INTERESTING AND MORE IMPORTANTLY USEFUL to talk all aspects of indicators of our pets health...STOOLS (pooh, poops, faeces, feces, shit whatever word people use as well as URINE (pee, piss, piddle) are a big indicator ! and we can all learn about our individual dogs as well as generally.

Flesh and bones if those are eaten pass through the digestive system longer than plant based foods. Dogs have much shorter intestines to process food than us humans have so food moves through faster in dogs and that is safer as flesh rotting is toxic of course fast. Flesh also creates very acidic digestive juices needed to digest flesh, more so than for plants so harmful to intestines often.

World Health Organisations have warned us now... meat causes cancers. our dogs not affected too ? dream on. there is poison in pesticides antibiotics etc in farm animal feeds ! dogs are sicker more allergies more cancers etc just like humans trends !

This is the ok shorter as bagged Male standard Vegan Poop 2nd poop of the day smaller than normal quantity

This is the same day same diet same time Female dog smaller than normal vegan poop 2nd poop of the day smaller quantity

This below is the porridge 1st early morning day day male vegan dog poop that alarms me sometimes but visit to vet later when it had turned to more solid putty said not diorhea so not of concern other than yes he had probably reacted adversely to having eaten a bowl of tomato soup with basil that I had let go cold so not eaten myself the night before.


1. Rage, 2. Carre, 3. Parvovirose, 4. Hepatite/Rubarth, 5. Leptospirose, 6. Toux de Chenil Parainfluenza,7. Toux de Chenil Bordetella, 8. Piroplasmose/Babiose, 9. Lyme, 10. Leishmaniose.  Vaccinated regularly. 

Were the standard vaccines both my dogs were given..."forced" on them by myself to help prevent death by mortal diseases. Vaccines are said to increase risks of epilepsy ...which their Belgian Shepherd breed is very prone to genetically. Microchips are said to increase the risks of cancers additionally. Eating grass that has had pesticides or fertilisers  put on it also affect the risks of cancers and other health problems just as the air the dogs breath close to the ground and those grasses etc that have had those chemicals put on them everywhere.

BELIEVE in VEGANISM ! ok ok....I will not get another purchased dog being VEGAN now it would be RESCUE ! but ! BIG BUT ! it is a HUGE credit to VEGANISM that a vegan dog has become INTERNATIONAL CHAMPION accredited by SO MANY INTERNATIONAL JUDGES in so many countries ! 14 CACS, 7 CACIBS, de juges différents du nord, centre et sud Europe, ADN, Exempt Dysplasie des hanches AA, CSAU, CANT http://belgische-herdershond.com/ do NOT apologise for having VEGAN DOGS or CATS ! I do NOT apologise for other vegans calling me and other vegans who feed their pet cats and dogs Vegan as ABUSIVE and CRUEL  ! they are WRONG. And...I have been BANNED from Vegan and NON VEGAN groups for even saying my dogs are VEGAN. I do not consider myself vegan...if to feed just 1 pet dog of mine I would be the cause of 3000 deaths of other animals over the average lifetime of 15 years for a medium sized dog like mine...just to keep 1 animal alive of my choice. As to why I got banned from CHAMPDOGS forum online (not a facebook group but pedigree dogs group) worth mentioning to new vegans...be prepared with vegan pets to get abuse from NON VEGANS and VEGANS about having vegan pet dogs and cats...online groups outisde of facebook also beware...Champdogs and Pets Corner UK are very hostile...accusations of animal cruelty ...get a rabbit etc are standard bans and posts deleted...by the time My bitch became Grand Champion of course that was the END of the BARF argument of best for looks and coat issues lol...no wonder I got banned there again...ps what the hell was I doing on a CHAMPDOGS forum lol ? pedigrees eeek ? I was not yet then VEGAN...managed actually to get myself BANNED there BEFORE I went vegan and abused when I simply said well BARF seems a bit EXCESSIVE to feed dogs with all those lives taken when dogs live perfectly well without being BARF ! lol ! the rabid lot told me to GET A RABBIT not a dog ! lol ! anyway. My dogs are pedigrees...bought pre vegan days...my bitch is international Grand Champion so unfortunately all that BARF feeding wasn't needed for her to pass the world top judges for coat looks and general beauty of course. Which was a claim of the CHAMPDOGS lot...being heavily into sleek coats saying BARF was best for that. FEE NOIRE DE LA VALLEE DES SORTILEGES is NOT a BARF fed dog she is VEGAN ! ja booh to BARF of not Grand Champion dogs I say to that ! I will rejoin and repeat this point actually wink wink...NO apologies to be made." THEN i found out...to my astonishment...that RAW/BARF stuff is a MYTH ! the content of the Barf dot com website...which i only read in 2017 properly...has LOADS of VEGETABLES and SEAWEED and SPICES even that I would not feed my vegan dogs eek ! for example ? Cayenne Pepper ! i jaw dropped when i saw that in the standard BARF recipy for dogfood ...the excuse for having that spice was that it helped alleviate HEART PROBLEMS in dogs ! why on EARTH would so called fed natural raw flesh dogs need a Cayenne Pepper spice in their foods ? that island...the Cayenne islands where it is grown is not the hunting feeding grounds of many wolves lol ! it is probably beacause dogs fed too much FLESH and FATS of animal sources get HEART PROBLEMS just as humans do lol. Anyway...Cayenne Pepper...is highly stomac irritating to dogs ! it can burn their PAWS even ! it is a spice of CHILLI family. LOADS of dog nutrition and general dog experts specifically warn AGAINST chilli and Cayenne Pepper I add for the reasons given. We think...those Raw/Barf promoters are feeding their dogs only flesh ! that is the IMAGE they like to promote with their misleading I now realise pictures etc...but the reality is...IT IS NOT NUTRITIONALLY ENOUGH ! as looking in detail at their recipes hidden mostly from initial view show ! 


Falcon Vegan Dog at Albert Docks Liverpool

Falcon and Feja Vegan Dogs in Chester Active Vegan Promoting !

Warrington Animal Right Activist with Feja Vegan Dog (Falcon nearby)

Vegan Activist Dogs with me Leafleting and just grunting " vegan dogs" in reply to what are they ? then not satisified usually with that answer...people ask again...meaning ? what BREED sigh...so I reply. VEGAN BELGIAN SHEPHERDS lol...then people start talking BELGIAN ? is that like Collies ? Sheepdogs ? they look like collies a bit people say...and I reply jaja...they were historically SHEEPDOGS. SOME people in Liverpool said GROENENDAELS ! i was then lol the one surprised to hear that ! they are not a very well known breed at all in Britain. Anyway...here were were in Liverpool with the Fab 4 Beatles Paul Macartney Vegan too !

Currently dogs' ages 6 and 7 in 2017 having been Vegan fed for over half their lives to date. A few EMERGENCY one off non vegan feeds done when short of supplies...digestion problems vomiting and diorhea effects noted immediately following those unfortunate occasions. Occasionally when I change their vegan supplier or type of food they also get obvious digestive problems,  as they did when i changed their non vegan foods,  so it is obvious that dogs do not like VARIETY or CHANGES to their diets.

Dogs would LOVE to eat chocolate etc it would poison and kill them so unfortunately we cannot just give our pets what they LIKE and wolf down in great eagerness...it is not that simple.

AHA ! not sure if already link  listed here...but on facebook individual page just saw this link...V-Dog...

https://v-dog.com/   loads of pages like...https://v-dog.com/apps/help-center#!is-v-dog-veterinarian-approved

Found on Facebook Group page of Vegan Dog Nutrition...https://www.facebook.com/groups/vegandognutrition/

Thank you


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CONCLUSIONS:   PETFOOD   If Flesh/Animal content based is very unhealthy and unnatural.

Am I pleased  I do not feed my dogs petfood of animal substance ! the numbers looking at the USA figures of slaughtered for human consumption animals and average human consumption figures indicate that petfood flesh must be sourced from dubious sources ! cruelty cases sick diseased animals not on the slaughter numbers of those slaughtered for human consumption.  AND DISCARDED EUTHANISED DOGS CATS AND HORSES INCLUDED included.

we DO KNOW that 10 percent of the intended before 9 billion land animals eventually are officially slaughtered in the USA per year, 1 billion animals die before getting to slaughter as a "normal" part of death and disease accidentally due to mistreatment, ill health, transport etc. I think this number is easily increased to 20 percent 2 billion.  It is the PARETO principle of 80/20 that applies to everything in business.

PET FOOD ! If Flesh/Animal content based…is using the most diseased unhealthy parts of animals in petfood cancers/tumours included. It is also sourced from the cheapest imported animal parts subject due to being PETFOOD to the lowest failed quality controls of course for human food." the QUALITY issue !

"The real problem with vegetarian cat food is not that it can’t be done, it’s that it is not natural" - some night think and say....so ?  it must be natural to spay and neuter cats, to have them eat tuna or cows? Or perhaps using a computer and being vegan is natural for humans? The 'natural' argument has no importance at all.

As Andrew Knight, a European and Australian veterinary specialist, states, "animals need specific nutrients, not ingredients. There is no scientific reason why a diet comprised only of plant, mineral and synthetically-based ingredients cannot be formulated to meet all of the palatability, nutritional and bioavailability needs of the species for which it is intended"

USA produced slaughtered animals for humans mostly. Petfood however is another matter hey...The United States Department of Agriculture has no regulatory authority over pet food. USDA regulates meat used for human consumption under division FSIS (Food Safety Inspection Services), the agency does not officially regulate meat for pet consumption. Raw pet foods manufactured under constant USDA inspection and meat shipped to a human food manufacturing facility that also manufactures a pet food were under USDA jurisdiction during manufacture, however after they become ‘a pet food’ they no longer are responsibility of USDA.

apart from the NUMBERS of ANIMALS killed for PETFOOD involved...which is for the USA based on weight/size of chicken/rabbit size animals 18 billion chickens/rabbits per year to feed USA 200 million pet dogs and cats a 30 percent flesh/animal parts based kibble (20 pecent of the 200 million feeding 100 percent RAW make that number high....3000 animals per pet eaten if fed RAW over 1 average pet lifetime or 900 animals if fed a 30 percent animal content kibble)

There is nothing "natural" about factory farming food for pet animals. Lions / wolves do not cage and forcibly breed animals to eat.

Lions / wolves do not naturally eat off PLATES either. Letting loose a cow for a pet cat or jack russell to chase after and bring down to kill in a house ?

Vultures not Lions/Wolves eat DEAD FLESH they are NECROVORES ! a real CARNIVORE eats flesh warm not dead for days/weeks/months as the unnatural flesh is that we feed so called Carnivores as if they are Necrovores like Vultures with different digestive systems. 

In the "wild" only 1 in 8 of an average wolfpack reached adulthood. Died of food poisoning mostly. Is this what we want to be "natural" for our pets ?

"nutrients, not ingredients is what really matters" for humans cats or dogs etc. Logical.

CONCLUSIONS:   PETFOOD   If Flesh/Animal content based is very unhealthy and unnatural. Healthy Vegan Nutrition is healthier and now available.

VEGAN PETFOOD is healthier and more natural and certainly less cruel.

and THIS IS THE VEGAN ANTHEM ! by Vegan Chrissie Hynde of the Pretenders ! let us not PRETEND to love or even LIKE animals and our fellow humans...if we kill them for unnecessary pleasures that are easily satisfied other less cruel and healthier ways ...I' LL STAND BY YOU !

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The Dark Side. Meet your Meat, Fish, Milk and Egg realities.


Webpage created start date 12th Feb 2017. It doesn't matter what we think most people currently think or do...if we think we can do something good even if we think it small and insignificant...it makes a difference. As the fairy queen said to Frodo in the Lord of the Rings...even the smallest person in the world can make a difference. ONE makes a difference. of about 11 thousand killed land animals and 10 thousand marine animals totalling 22 THOUSAND ANIMALS BRED AND KILLED for 1 human flesh eater lifetime, just for FOOD ! Totally unnecessarily. Just to put a FIGURE to what 1 PERSON can achieve ! SUCCESS !

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